Wednesday, October 10, 2007

UNRELATED ITEM: Oral Roberts Sex Tape!

Here is a bit of nostalgia from the Oral Roberts sermon archives. Vintage Oral pontificating the finer nuances of "Christian Copulation." Enjoy or recoil. It's all a decision in the end anyway, right?
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6 comments:

Anonymous said...

okay well everyone used to call them queers so what's the big deal? are they going to go home and cry about it? come on these guys are men and they are doing what ever the heck they want but they can't handle being called names...what is this kindergarden...no one can handle a little controversy...well sorry i know everyone pretty much caves to the social norms today...but give me a break...even if you don't agree with this message... you can't handle it? there's all kinds of things i don't like on tv, on the media but i don't go crying to abc everytime someone says something i disagree with? I think some people just need to grow up and act like adults for once

October 11, 2007 at 8:15 AM
Anonymous said...

I'm sure the homosexual community can handle being called queers, but what shouldn't be "handled" or tolerated is a religious fanatic telling a bunch of kids that gays are inferior, going to hell or going to contract AIDS from feces. Zealots such as Oral are the reason that a large segment of society cannot have equal rights when it comes to tax breaks and insurance coverage. You evangelicals were wrong about womens rights, wrong about slavery and now you are wrong about gay rights. Quit using irrational beliefs that stem from ancient myths to influence the rest of our lives.

October 11, 2007 at 8:50 AM
Anonymous said...

christians do not believe gays are inferior first of all... we believe that they are living in sin like everyone in the entire world including me...but if you need no instruction in your life as to what is right and what is wrong that's fine and your business but some people do...because some people are lost in this world and need help finding God and we don't care about money and fame or fortune we just want to be in right standing with God when we die ... I have no plans of influencing your life but I just want to change my life..that it may be pleasing to the Lord...you can do what ever you want...that's why we have freedom to chose our own paths

October 11, 2007 at 9:26 AM
Anonymous said...

If gays are living in sin just like everyone else in this world, what's stopping them from getting into heaven? And why are preachers so adamant in their stance against gays? I think Oral and Pastor Fred Phelps from Westboro Baptist Church may have a little secret with each other, wink wink ;)

October 11, 2007 at 3:55 PM
Anonymous said...

Wow, I did not feel this "excerpt" was exclusively about gays. At first I was shocked at the explicit language (breasts, vagina, descriptions of where and where not the male organ should be inserted), but then I thought, "Perhaps the reason we are so messed up as an entire nation on our sexuality is that preachers don't give explicit teaching"?

Anyway, that was an "eye opener" of a sermon excerpt.

I always thought Oral Roberts truly was "called of God," at least at one time. Due to this lawsuit mess, I've ordered Patti Roberts and Jerry Sholes book to learn more about what the outside world doesn't get to see.

October 12, 2007 at 7:49 AM
Anonymous said...

"Sin" is merely a product of social norms and memes. "Sin" changes across geographical regions and across cultures. Take for instance divorce in scripture versus divorce in culture. If going by the Jewish texts, divorce for the male is somewhat acceptable but adultery for the female if she re-marries and as we all know, god used to want us to stone adulteress'. Then in New Testament Jesus says that divorce is wrong unless it is in the case of fornication. He too says its adultery for the female and leaves the male open for remarriage. Luckily god changed his mind and doesn't want us to murder women for adultery anymore, but he still keeps his vigorous stance on equal rights for women.
Now, in American Christian Sects divorce is not only permissible but also a very common practice between these children of god. These people no doubt, have twisted their interpretation of scripture to conform to social norms concerning marriage and divorce.
Now If you are not taking these scriptures as literal instructions from god, you have decided that “in gods eyes” divorce is acceptable or at least forgivable and that a document of divorce is the deciding factor, not because god said so, or because scripture said so, but merely because society has allowed it to be so. Not only has society omitted the significance of this moral code, it has interpreted it to fit into a social framework that melds into its particular culture. This is done not only in our society but in every society, differently from location to location, from generation to generation. So, under Christian logic (that’s a misnomer) of divorce, it is permissible to divorce here, today in Oklahoma and the divorce is legal only after the judge signs the final draft. It is fine to believe that, but then you must also realize that it is much easier and faster to get a divorce in Las Vegas and even more so in a country without a sophisticated legal system. So, for Christians living in Morocco, god deems a divorce final at the exact instant that a husband hits his wife one time, the law even being enforced to the extent that if the wife forgives her husband, they must completely remarry after that single blow. In America god doesn’t believe that beating your wife is as important, so he makes you wait through months or possibly years of litigation to clear your name from the eternal damnation of a mortal sin.
-So, are god’s laws changing from society to society, or is society changing god’s laws? Neither, society is merely interpreting a text of moral allegories that are thousands of years old to be cohesive with the demands of their modern culture (divinely inspired of course).

October 12, 2007 at 8:11 AM

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